Forums - MvC2 : How good is your Cable execution? Come to the challenge! Show all 28 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Strategy & Tactics (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10) -- MvC2 : How good is your Cable execution? Come to the challenge! (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48694) Posted by dreamteam on 12:09:2001 06:12 AM: MvC2 : How good is your Cable execution? Come to the challenge! Ok, I read that thread about AHVBx3 execution and had this idea. We'll make a test to see how good is our execution to do GBs, AHVBs and CAHVBs with Cable. I'll suggest a way to do it so everybody can do it and compare. Let's go: 1 - Guard break(cpu practice mode). The way to test it will be at practice mode on DC vs CPU. Choose a more or less regular size character like Magneto or Ruby Heart. Then try to land the lk,mk,snapback combo. Once you did it, do the jump hp and try to GB the character(if it blocks) or combo the HP into AHVB(if it doesn't) . If the opp blocked it and you didn't do the GB, or if it took the hit and you didn't combo, you failed one attempt. If you GBed or comboed, you had success. Try it 20 times and came here to put your score. My score(out of 20 GB attempts): 19 2 - AHVBs in a row(regular practice mode). This goes to test the AHVB motion, without the need of specific timing. Starting on the 1P side, try to do as much AHVBs in a row as you can(doesn't need to combo). If you do an HP, a regular vb or ground HVB you lost. You have 3 chances to pick your best one(like first chance - 6, second - 5, third - 12, your score is 12). Do the same thing on 2P side. My score( best out of 3 attempts each side): 1P side - 107 AHVBs in a row 2P side - 68 AHVBs in a row 3 - CAHVB(manual practice mode). Choose Megaman as your opp and do a fireball(HP). When your Cable B/Cable B team blocks it, do a variable counter into AHVB. If you block but don't variable counter, you fail one attempt. If you variable counter but don't cancel it into AHVB, you failed one attempt. If you cancel the VC into ground HVB, you failed too. If you do it right, you had success with your attempt. Try it 20 times for each side and post the results. My score(out of 20 CAHVB attempts each side): 1P side - 14 2P side - 17 4 - HK, AHVB x 3(regular practice mode). This is the same as the other thread. Choose a regular size opp and try to do 3 AHVBs after a s.HK. If you did HK, AHVBx3 you got success with one attempt. If you got anything wrong past the initial HK you failed one attempt. 20 times each side. My score(out of 20 attempts each side): 1P side - 15 2P side - 15 And finally, if you want, the controller type that you used. That's it. Please don't cheat, OK? VERY IMPORTANT: If you're a top player or know a top player(shadyk, viscant, duc, valle, justin, arturo, any others) please do the test or ask the top player to do it, so we can at least see how good our execution is compared to teh top players and try to be better than them at something. I'm saying this because I have no competition at all and Duc told me to practice GBs for all main chars them. I think I got a pretty good execution(of course my game sucks, but what can I do?) and I would like to compare it with the best. Thanks a lot. Thank you all for participating. If you were too lazy to read all of the above, see the example below: 1 - Guard break(cpu practice mode). My score(out of 20 GB attempts): 19 2 - AHVBs in a row(regular practice mode). My score( best out of 3 attempts each side): 1P side - 107 AHVBs in a row 2P side - 68 AHVBs in a row 3 - CAHVB(manual practice mode). My score(out of 20 CAHVB attempts each side): 1P side - 14 2P side - 17 4 - HK, AHVB x 3(regular practice mode). My score(out of 20 attempts each side): 1P side - 15 2P side - 15 CONTROLLER USED That Sega's arcade stick, with green stick and buttons, for Dreamcast. Posted by GeekBoy on 12:09:2001 06:49 AM: You've got way too much time on your hands to put out a challenge to do stuff like that... Posted by Trance Man on 12:09:2001 08:29 AM: It doesn't matter how good ur execution is, it' all bout weather u can win without him or not.I don't understand y everyone still uses cable after all da shit to be found out as been found out. Try different characters. Man u sure do have way too mch time on ur hands. Posted by McSpyder0 on 12:09:2001 02:52 PM: Which Cable Guard Break is better when your across the screen and jump fp then AHVB or you dash and c.FP and then AHVB. I saw the c.FP one yesterday done and it looks so much cooler and it seems easier to do too. Posted by dreamteam on 12:12:2001 03:13 AM: quote: Originally posted by GeekBoy You've got way too much time on your hands to put out a challenge to do stuff like that... I did it in less than a hour. No offense, but how much time did you take to get 1430 posts in half a year, talking about games, at an Internet forum? Posted by dreamteam on 12:12:2001 03:16 AM: quote: Originally posted by Trance Man It doesn't matter how good ur execution is, it' all bout weather u can win without him or not.I don't understand y everyone still uses cable after all da shit to be found out as been found out. Try different characters. Man u sure do have way too mch time on ur hands. Execution is half the job. You should read Seth's article about it. I play all teh top tiers, and I can GB with all of them. I'm starting this with Cable because his AHVB execution it's probably the most important of all. I might do it with Sent's flying tricks, Storm and Mags combos, IM infinite or even overall wavedashes, but the AHVB seems to be the most common thing that NEEDS to be well executed. Posted by dreamteam on 12:12:2001 03:18 AM: quote: Originally posted by McSpyder0 Which Cable Guard Break is better when your across the screen and jump fp then AHVB or you dash and c.FP and then AHVB. I saw the c.FP one yesterday done and it looks so much cooler and it seems easier to do too. Personally, I think that's easier and more worthy to learn the first one well. That's because you don't need to position yourself to do it right. You can try a little with both and see how do you feel about it. Posted by Mr. E on 12:12:2001 03:18 AM: you did 200 or so AHVB's in an hour? God, that seems mind numbingly boring. Posted by jinogre on 12:12:2001 05:06 AM: I can prolly get 1 AHVB in an hour or so. I still need help on when and how to do it better. That is all. Posted by teammember007 on 12:15:2001 03:47 AM: quote: Originally posted by Mr. E you did 200 or so AHVB's in an hour? God, that seems mind numbingly boring. You should read an old thread about how japanese plyers practce execution. Som eof them repeat the same thing for like 8 hours a day!!! Posted by Ouroborus on 12:15:2001 03:54 AM: quote: Originally posted by GeekBoy You've got way too much time on your hands to put out a challenge to do stuff like that... How Ironic Posted by teammember007 on 12:15:2001 03:57 AM: quote: Originally posted by jinogre I can prolly get 1 AHVB in an hour or so. I still need help on when and how to do it better. That is all. Do a search for "AHVB" and it'll help you. If you have more specific problems after that, come here and I'll try to help. DREAMTEAM: Here it goes my results: 1 - Guard break(cpu practice mode). My score(out of 20 GB attempts): 12 2 - AHVBs in a row(regular practice mode). My score( best out of 3 attempts each side): 1P side - 43 AHVBs in a row 2P side - 55 AHVBs in a row 3 - CAHVB(manual practice mode). My score(out of 20 CAHVB attempts each side): 1P side - 12 2P side - 9 4 - HK, AHVB x 3(regular practice mode). My score(out of 20 attempts each side): 1P side - 11 2P side - 14 It took me less than half an hour to do so. It's not that long. In fact, if you change item 2(the longest ones) for AVBS(same motion with one button) I think you have an excellente execution test that can be done in 15 minutes. Posted by dkerbs on 12:15:2001 05:34 AM: quote: Originally posted by Trance Man It doesn't matter how good ur execution is, it' all bout weather u can win without him or not.I don't understand y everyone still uses cable after all da shit to be found out as been found out. Try different characters. Man u sure do have way too mch time on ur hands. execution=win Posted by Jakuda on 12:15:2001 07:59 AM: Damn, that's like over 400 ahvb's. You have waaaay too much time. Practice is one thing... I'd rather get laid. Posted by Deathfist on 12:17:2001 08:42 PM: Where can you get the sega arcade stick for dreamcast? I need one for my home. Posted by teammember008 on 12:26:2001 05:41 AM: quote: Originally posted by Jakuda Damn, that's like over 400 ahvb's. You have waaaay too much time. Practice is one thing... I'd rather get laid. Seriously, it's half an hour. Do you really think that half an hour is too much time practicing MvC2, specially when you're trying the most important move for Cable? If you think so, you can't even play a tourney, or have a good streak. Isn't that much when you think about it. Look at it this way: If you play 30 minutes with ST Sagat, I'm sure you'll do more than 400 fireballs. Posted by ViciousSLASH on 12:26:2001 07:10 PM: quote: Originally posted by dreamteam I did it in less than a hour. No offense, but how much time did you take to get 1430 posts in half a year, talking about games, at an Internet forum? I don't like getting involved in others weird arguements , but HOT DAMN that was a pretty good ZING! -Vicious Posted by fate6617 on 12:28:2001 12:11 AM: quote: Originally posted by Deathfist Where can you get the sega arcade stick for dreamcast? I need one for my home. Sega has stopped the production for the Agetec joystick for quite sometime now. The best place to go would be an online auction site, Ebay or whatnot... i got mine from EBAY, but if you want to get really good, build your own, cant stress that enough... if you need help with that, let me know.. or just start a thread and im sure a lot of people would help. Posted by Fireseal on 12:30:2001 12:21 PM: Get a MAS systems stick. They make the best stick out there for any system. You can get connedtors for your PS2 or DC. Just look them up on the web not sure on page addy atm. Posted by teammember009 on 01:11:2002 06:40 AM: Will anyone besides the teammembers do this? Anyway, here it goes my results: 1 - Guard break(cpu practice mode). My score(out of 20 GB attempts): 14 2 - AHVBs in a row(regular practice mode). My score( best out of 3 attempts each side): 1P side - 62 AHVBs in a row 2P side - 50 AHVBs in a row 3 - CAHVB(manual practice mode). My score(out of 20 CAHVB attempts each side): 1P side - 8 2P side - 8 4 - HK, AHVB x 3(regular practice mode). My score(out of 20 attempts each side): 1P side - 10 2P side - 9 Posted by Silent Storm on 01:11:2002 07:00 AM: Man how ever does this challenge has way too much time on their hands even if it is just 30 minutes. I know doing something like that is incredibly boring. I get tired of doing different air combos with different people, no less doing these things with cable. And even if you can do these things in practice mode, doing it in competition is what really counts. If you can't do it then, theres no need to practice it so mant times. Theres nothing wrong with playing with cable, I play with cable, but try to do different combos with different assists types. Now thats when you are learning something. I don't no disrespect to anyone. Doing things that won't help you in competition play will only mess you up. P.S. I wish I had a dreamcast to even do my combos, i have to wait to i go to the arcade Posted by teammember009 on 01:13:2002 05:08 AM: quote: Originally posted by Silent Storm Man how ever does this challenge has way too much time on their hands even if it is just 30 minutes. I know doing something like that is incredibly boring. I get tired of doing different air combos with different people, no less doing these things with cable. And even if you can do these things in practice mode, doing it in competition is what really counts. If you can't do it then, theres no need to practice it so mant times. Theres nothing wrong with playing with cable, I play with cable, but try to do different combos with different assists types. Now thats when you are learning something. I don't no disrespect to anyone. Doing things that won't help you in competition play will only mess you up. P.S. I wish I had a dreamcast to even do my combos, i have to wait to i go to the arcade Read Seth's article about execution. It's the perfect answer to what you're saying and you'll learn a lot for tourneys. Posted by Silent Storm on 01:13:2002 05:58 AM: quote: Originally posted by teammember009 Read Seth's article about execution. It's the perfect answer to what you're saying and you'll learn a lot for tourneys. Where is it? Posted by Aerial Assault on 01:15:2002 11:20 PM: One good way to practice AHVBx*insert number here* is, well first of all, a hyper viper beam (ground or air doesn't matter)lasts about four seconds. Count to 4 to yourself then quickly do the tiger knee again. In practice mode, I took this statistic and made a AHVB drill with the hyper combo meters on infinite, I particularly did AHVB's on behemoths like Jugg and Black. With that timing I mentioned above, I got around 500 hits. Oh speaking of 500 hits, this is also a big judgment call on aiming, and if you mash the punch buttons fast enough at the right aim angle, you'll notice that the beam will pull the opponent right back to you, and that leaves better chances for a better aim angle. Posted by teammember009 on 01:16:2002 04:29 AM: quote: Originally posted by Aerial Assault One good way to practice AHVBx*insert number here* is, well first of all, a hyper viper beam (ground or air doesn't matter)lasts about four seconds. Count to 4 to yourself then quickly do the tiger knee again. I think I read about your tactic in an earlier post of yours. It's really good to pace yourself. Why don't you take the execution test? Posted by teammember009 on 01:16:2002 04:32 AM: quote: Originally posted by Silent Storm Where is it? http://www.shoryuken.com/columns/dom101/ At the link above, you have all Seth's columns. The one I'm talking about is close to the bottom and it's called "So, you want to be a dominator". Several of the columns there you'll probably gave you some help to tourney play. If you have the time, look at them all. Then tell me what you think. Bye!! (maybe you'll want to do the test then, I hope so ) Posted by Aerial Assault on 01:16:2002 07:22 PM: quote: Originally posted by teammember009 I think I read about your tactic in an earlier post of yours. It's really good to pace yourself. Why don't you take the execution test? The execution test? That sounds good. How do I do it? Posted by teammember009 on 01:20:2002 06:01 AM: quote: Originally posted by Aerial Assault The execution test? That sounds good. How do I do it? Just read the first post on this thread, where dreamteam explains it. 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